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I have had so many of these encounters, particularly when I worked in retail during the pandemic and old white people seem to take it for granted that "the help" is a captive audience who isn't allowed to resist listening to their gas lighting and vitriol. I usually tried to offer some variety of, "I understand you feel that way, I do not. I'm not required as part of my job to stay here listening to things unrelated to customer assistance, so I will be on my way. If you need help related to your shopping experience, I'll be happy to help."

At least that feels like making it clear I'm not a receptive audience and I'd rather be toiling away in a freezer than listening to their nonsense, yet I'm completely professional about it. If they go to a manager to complain it's going to fall on deaf ears.

After having several phone conversations with my Mom that made it clear she was more emotionally invested in engaging in Trumpian tribalism than having a considerate relationship with her daughter I finally just reached my breaking point and have been non-contact ever since. I had made it clear often enough that we shouldn't bother talking about politics, that we'd never see eye to eye. I stopped using Facebook and told her it was borne out of my personal preference to not be associated online with people lying and spreading propaganda.

Under the guise of "everyone is trampling my life and rights" she constantly kept overstepping *my* boundaries, saying whatever crass thing based in lies she felt like saying in the moment and bringing up political news just so she could dump her views and attitude on me.

My mom thinks we've stopped talking "because of politics." But the reality is, we've stopped talking because she's become a completely self important asshole who can't exhibit the self control or consideration to not waste my time and emotional energy listening to her rant about politics.

At the height of the pandemic I was an "essential worker" dealing with extra stress of supply line problems, customer anxiety, on top of the uncertainty of the pandemic itself on daily life. I finally just decided I didn't have the emotional overhead to give to her.

In that moment I needed some compassion and understanding. She had none to give. Her actions show that she clearly loves Trump more than she loves me, and I can live with that. But I'm not going to also waste my time having it repeated to me day after day, sapping my emotional energy in the process.

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Mark Davis's avatar

Prof Zimmer, thank you for another elucidating, clarifying post.

Two questions about this, one existential and one personal: "Once you have convinced yourself and/or your supporters that the other side is scheming to deprive you of what is rightfully yours, any measure you take, regardless of how radical, is justified as an inevitable act of (preemptive) self-defense."

1. What is your prediction for how this goes? On each of your podcasts you say in one form or another, "it's not clear to me how democracy survives here." What are you anticipating?

2. As you had anticipated with your interlocutors, I feel terrible *for you* to have arrived in America at this time. And I wonder, how can you possibly remain? Do you feel that you are "in the fight" until the end, so to speak? If so, you have my heartfelt thanks and appreciation. In my view, we have no more effective voice than you, this wonderful German who has chosen to show us the truth.

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